Zelenski (president Oekraïne) ingepakt door neonazi's en beloften aan EU gedaan door Porosjenko

Tyler Durden publiceerde gisteren een artikel waarin hij stelt dat Zelensky eigenlijk ingepakt en vleugellam is...... Volgens Durden ligt e.e.a. ook aan Zelensky zelf, zo heeft hij een premier die openlijk heeft aangegeven minstens fan van neonazisme te zijn door een concert van een neonazi-band te bezoeken...... 

Niet vergeten moet worden dat men al vanaf het aantreden van de Porosjenko junta (geparachuteerd door de VS) probeert te verdoezelen dat de neonazi's een machtige factor zijn in Oekraïne, een Joodse president is dan wel het 'ultieme bewijs' dat de neonazi's geen macht hebben in Oekraïne........ Voorts stelt Durden dat Zelensky heel andere woorden gebruikt als hij met neonazi's en Oekraïense nationalisten in de VS spreekt, dan wanneer hij met het gewone Oekraïense publiek spreekt... Durden spreekt dan ook over de verkiezingen als hadden de neonazi's macht over deze verkiezingen...... 

De Oekraïense neonazi's hebben de controle over het parlement al vanaf het moment dat de voormalige president Janoekovytsj moest vluchten (en waar je over een coup kan spreken) .... De VS organiseerde en regisseerde de opstand in Oekraïne* (inclusief scherpschutters voor het Maidanplein) die zoals gezegd tot het illegaal afzetten van de democratisch gekozen president Janoekovytsj leidde....... Eén en ander was de directe aanleiding voor de bevolking van De Krim een referendum tot samengaan met Rusland uit te schrijven** en voor de bevolking in de Donbass-regio om zich af te scheiden van Oekraïne......

De bevolking van de Donbass-regio wordt sinds die tijd gebombardeerd door vooral neonazi-bataljons en zoals je weet: het bombarderen van burgerdoelen is een oorlogsmisdaad volgens het Verdrag van Genève.....

Durden wijst op de misvatting dat de neonazi's de verkiezingen hebben verloren, althans hij is daar bepaald niet van overtuigd, daar men van meet af aan heeft ontkent dat er neonazi controle was op de regering en het leger (en de bevolking o.a. middels doodseskaders die al een aantal mensen hebben vermoorde die het bijvoorbeeld niet eens waren met de Porosjenko junta, waaronder journalisten)...... Zie verder het artikel van Durden voor cijfers en groepen die onterecht gevangenzitten, maar waar men in het westen schijt aan heeft, als Rusland maar gedemoniseerd kan worden vindt men blijkbaar alles goed.....

Durden ziet Zelensky, een man van Joodse komaf, als camouflage voor het grote  fascistische gehalte van Oekraïne in het algemeen..... Kortom Zelensky zit klem tussen het volk en de neonazi's en weet niet goed hoe hier uit te komen........... Voorlopig staat de terugtrekking van de reguliere Oekraïense troepen uit de Donbass-regio in de koelkast daar de neonazi's hebben gedreigd onmiddellijk posities in te nemen die het leger verlaat..... Overigens was die terugtrekking onderdeel van een akkoord bereikt door interventie van Frank-Walter Steinmeier, destijds de Duitse minister van buitenlandse zaken en nu de huidige president van Duitsland, men noemde dit akkoord dan ook de Steinmeier Formula

Durden noemt nog een aantal punten die uit en te na moeten worden onderzocht, zoals het schieten op het Maidanplein, echter dat is al uitgezocht en daarvoor zouden neonazi's en scherpschutters uit het buitenland gebruikt zijn, puur en alleen om middels deze false flag operatie Janoekovytsj de schuld in de schoenen te schuiven en zo de woede tegen hem te voeden..... Verder noemt Durden MH17, echter gezien het volledig rammelende rapport van het JIT en een fiks aantal andere zaken, lijkt het me wel duidelijk dat ook MH17 werd gebruikt als een false flag operatie om Rusland te beschuldigen..... (klik onder dit bericht op het label MH17 voor een groot aantal berichten over rampvlucht MH17)

Lees het artikel van Durden en besef dat ook wij een fikse som aan belastinggeld hebben weggegeven aan de Porosjenko junta, waarmee de leden haar buitenlandse bankrekeningen (o.a. in Nederland) hebben gespekt...... Tegen Porosjenko lopen nu overigens minstens 11 strafrechtelijke onderzoeken..... Ondanks de vele miljarden aan steun is het land zo goed als failliet en nog steeds is de zwaar corrupte misdadiger Porosjenko het lieverdje van het westen en heeft men in het westen al kritiek geleverd op Zelensky daar hij toenadering tot Rusland heeft gezocht......

Benieuwd of Durden gelijk krijgt met zijn verhaal, want m.i. is er nog wel ruimte voor Zelensky, al vrees ik het ergste......

Zelenskii In Free-Fall

by Tyler Durden

Thu, 10/17/2019 - 03:30

Via The Saker,

Well, that didn’t take too long...

Let me summarize what just happened in the Ukraine.

Everything was looking oh-so-promising and then suddenly…

First, Trump, Macron and Merkel apparently told Zelenskii that he had to sign the so-called Steinmeier formula, which basically spells out the sequence of confidence-building and de-escalation measures foreseen by the Minsk Agreements.  Now, you would be excused for thinking that this is a no-brainer.  After all, the Minsk Agreements were ratified by the UNSC (which makes them mandatory, no “if” or “buts” about this!) and it was Poroshenko who agreed to the Steinmeier formula.  Heck, in 2016 he sure did not have a problem with it, but in 2019 he now calls the self-same formula a Russian invention and that there is no such thing as a Steinmeier formula, see for yourself (in Ukrainian only):

So what is the big deal?

The problem of the “non-existing Nazis”

Zelenskii’s problem can be summed up in a simple sentence: the non-existing Nazis.  Well, at least in the past all the Neo-Nazis cum Jew-haters were constantly trying to convince us that there are no Nazis in the Ukraine; apparently, my use of the term Ukronazi really set them off.  Then came the election in which an absolute majority of Ukrainians rejected Poroshenko’s drive for war and voted for Zelenskii.  If the Ukrainian people voted en masse to elect an anti-war/pro-peace Jew, surely the Ukronazis were just a small minority of fringe individuals, right?

Wrong!  Very very wrong!

And if those who were whitewashing the Ukrainian Nazis (obviously to obfuscate their real ideology and power) had paid closer attention they would have seen signs of real Nazi power all over this election.

First, there was the remarkable change in tone in Zelenskii’s rhetoric.  Just like so many politicians (including Trump!), he radically changed his tune and clearly tried to say one thing when speaking to the general Ukrainian public and quite another when meeting with the Nazis or nationalist exiles in the USA.

You could say that there is a “Nazi deep state” in the Ukraine which, just like the other deep states out there, can weather any elected president and quickly reassert its control over whomever the people elected.

You don’t believe me when I say that he actually hosted the Ukronazis “fringe minority”? Fine, see for yourself:

In the photo above, Zelenskii is sitting with your typical gang of Ukronazi skinheads, including members of the infamous Azov death-squad, and he is trying really hard to charm them while they, very publicly, have threatened him with a new Maidan.

And this is not an isolated case or a fluke.

Zelenskii’s prime minister went to a concert for an openly Nazi “Scream” music group called Sekira Peruna and thanked the crowd of veterans of the “anti terrorist operation” (i.e. thugs from the Ukronazi deathsquads) for being there and for saving the Ukraine.  I did not find any English language translation of the typical lyrics of Sekira Peruna, but I assure you that they contain all the obligatory nonsense which the Nazi ideology is built upon (see here for a very good article with more details on this event and the Nazis involved).

Check out what their concert posters look like (shown below) or, even better, check out the website of this group: http://sokyraperuna.com/

  

                           

‘Nuff said, I think.

So what is going on here?

Basically, exactly what I predicted as soon as Zelenskii was elected in my article “Zelenskii’s dilemma” in which I wrote: (emphasis added)

The Nazi-occupied Ukraine is not a democracy, but a plutocracy combined with an ochlocracy. The oligarchs are still there, as are the neo-Nazis mobs and death squads. And that creates an immense problem for Zelenskii: this new Rada might well represent the views of a majority of the Ukrainian people, but the real power in the country is not concentrated in the Rada at all: it is in the streets (…) The people of the Ukraine desperately want peace. For the time being, the Rada reflects this overwhelmingly important fact. I say “for the time being” because what will happen next is that the various forces and individuals who currently support Zelenskii have done so just to gain power. They do not, however, have a common ideological platform or even a common program. As soon as things go south (which they will inevitably do) many (most?) of these folks will turn against Zelenskii and side with whoever can muster the biggest crowds and mete out the most violence. Now that he got elected, Zelenskii quasi-instantly switched to the exact same rhetoric as what got Poroshenko so severely defeated. Why?  Because Zelenskiii is afraid that the neo-Nazi mobs and death squads will be unleashed against him at the very first opportunity. In fact, the neo-Nazis have already begun promising a new Maidan.  The truth is that Zelenskii has to choose between acting on the will of the people and face the wrath of the neo-Nazis or do the will of the neo-Nazis and face the wrath of the people: tertium non datur!  So far, Zelenskii has apparently decided that talking is all he is going to do simply because his triumphant electoral victories have landed him in the middle of an immense minefield, and any steps he takes from now on could cost him very dearly. Right now, in the short term, the neo-Nazi mobs represent a much bigger danger to Zelenskii than the (disorganized, demoralized and generally apathetic) people. But this will inevitably change as the economic and political situation gets worse.

We see exactly that scenario unfolding before our eyes.  Zelenskii took not one, but three very real, if small, steps.  First, he ordered a pullback of some regular Ukrainian armed forces from a few important segments of the line of contact, then he agreed to a relatively minor prisoner exchange and, finally, he ordered the Ukrainian delegation to sign the Steinmeier formula.  The prisoner exchange went okay for both sides.  The Ukronazis soon categorically rejected any withdrawal and they publicly promised to immediately re-occupy any village vacated by the regular army and they rejected what they call the “Russian” or “Putin” formula.  So far there were a few attempts to block the thugs of the Azov battalion, but after a few minor clashes, the Azov people passed the police line.  And now, the Nazi organized mass protests in 300 Ukrainian cities.  I could post lots of videos here, but that would take a lot of space.  If you want to get a feel for what took place today, go to YouTube and copy-paste the following search query “протесты в украине” into the search bar, and then use the filter option and chose “this week”: you will easily get many hours of video and you don’t even need to understand a word of Ukrainian to immediately get it.

There is another very important factor which you will almost never see on these videos or on any public statements and that is that there are a number of civil and even criminal cases currently being brought to trial in the Ukraine against a host of officials of the ancient régime including even against Poroshenko (11-14 separate investigations just for him already!)  These men (Poroshenko, Parubii, Turchinov, etc.) now have absolutely no choice but to try to overthrow Zelenskii.

Just like the US Dems need a coup against Trump (in the form of an impeachment or something else) because the Clinton-Biden gang now risks real, hard, jail time, so do the former Ukronazi leaders now need a coup against Zelenskii or they go to jail.

Initially, it appeared that Trump had given Poroshenko some personal security guarantees, but everybody knows how much the US President’s security “guarantees” are worth (just ask the Kurds!).  So Poroshenko did not flee the country.  It now appears that some of the people behind Zelenskii (aka Kolomoiskii) are out to get the “Poroshenko clan & Associates” – Poroshenko has to either topple Zelenskii or run away abroad.  There are also rumors that the US “deep state” (as opposed to the Trump Administration) is now putting pressure on Zelenskii to stop these investigations.  Thus, the current battle between Trump and the Neocons and their “deep state” has now spilled over into the Ukraine and it appears that various US interest groups are now creating local Ukrainian surrogates whom they will use in their struggle against each other.

Furthermore, a real possibility opened up now that all sorts of previously buried issues will be investigated by the Ukrainian prosecutors including:

1. An official and true investigation to find out who opened fired on the police and demonstrators during the Euromaidan
2. MH-17
3. Ukronazi atrocities in the Donbass
4. Human rights violations in the Ukraine (where over 1000 political prisoners are still being held) starting with innumerable cases of horrible torture of detainees (in secret torture camps, à la CIA, including an especially infamous one in Mariupol).
5. Poroshenko’s role in the “Crimea Bridge provocation”
6. All the many murders of journalists and opponents to the Nazis beginning with the murder of Oles Buzina
7. A quasi infinite list of war profiteering, corruption, fraud, etc. etc. etc.

Simply put: there is no way that the Ukronazis will just stand by and let those investigations proceed.  And while it is true that numerically the Ukronazis are a small minority in the Ukraine, there is plenty enough of them to terrify Zelenskii and his handlers, especially considering that they are 1) well armed 2) many have frontline combat experience and 3) that they are willing not only to engage in “regular” violence, but also to commit atrocities and engage in terrorism (they did plenty of both in the Donbass).

Zelenskii does have a number of things going for him: first, the mandate of the people (though his popularity is already down from 73% to 66% – which is still very big), his legal prerogatives as the President and Commander in Chief and the support of Kolomoiskii’s strong network of international connections, especially in Israel.

But that is all rather theoretical so far.

All Zelenskii has done, besides hosting the skinheads in his office, was to make a 14 hour long interview with a group of reporters.  Yes,  fourteen hours.  Alas, all he achieved was to show that he is a much better actor than politician.  In fact, most experts seem to agree that in his role as President Zelenskii is a total failure who speaks a lot, says a lot of silly things when he does, and seems to be absolutely unable to take any real action.

At the time of writing (Wed 16th) the leader of the Ukronazis has given Zelenskii 10 days to yield to all the demands of the opposition.  If not, he has promised to trigger a new Maidan and bring millions of people to the streets.

Yup.  The “tiny” “fringe” and otherwise “non-existing” Nazis have now given Zelenskii an ultimatum.

Zelenskii is in free fall:

• Trump, Macron and Merkel are demanding that he abide by the decisions of the UNSC, the Minsk Agreements and the Steinmeier formula. 
• The Russians have clearly indicated that unless tangible and real progress is made in the implementation of this formula, there will be nothing else to discuss. 
• The Ukraine is basically bankrupt and desperately needs both Novorussian coal and Russian gas. 
• Furthermore, only a removal of the self-defeating barriers and boycotts imposed by the former regime against any trade or even communications with Russia could begin to kick-start the economy of what is now clearly a failed state.
• Yet the Nazis will oppose any and all such measures, with violence if needed. 

As for Zelenskii, he appears to be in a no win situation: no matter what he does next, things will only get worse.  Thus the most likely outcome of all these processes will be, in the short term, further futile attempts by Zelenskii to appease the Nazis (thereby alienating the general population), in the middle term a violent confrontation, followed in the long term by (the probably inevitable) break-up of the Ukraine into separately much more viable parts.

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UPDATE: I just heard that the Ukraine is now demanding that 1) the LNR/DNR dissolve themselves, 2) that they have to leave the Ruble zone and switch back to the Hrivna, 3) that the local military forces have to be disbanded and, finally, 4) that Kiev wants the total control of the LDNR/Russian border.

Well, good luck with that, folks!  I hope they are not holding their breath (they aren’t – they are just trying to find a pretext to renege on their legal and political obligations…)

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*  Daaraan gaf de VS minister van buitenlandse zaken, destijds Hillary Clinton van de Obama administratie, maar liefst 4 miljard dollar uit........

** Zie: 'De Krim het echte verhaal: geen annexatie maar de vrijwillige aansluiting bij Rusland, zelfs Oekraïners stemden voor'

Zie ook:
'MH17: Stef Blok (VVD minister BuZa) daagt Rusland voor het Europees Hof voor de Rechten van de Mens, terwijl de rechtszaak in Nederland nog lang niet is afgerond'

'MH17, getuige zegt vlak voor neerhalen 2 Oekraïense straaljagers te hebben gezien >> het JIT weigert commentaar te geven.....'
 
'Brief aan de Russische bevolking over 'Defender 2020', de zoveelste militaire NAVO oefening langs de grens van hun land' 

'MH17 proces op Radio1'(en zie de links in dat bericht voor meer over rampvlucht MH17) 

'Oekraïne: opnieuw neonazi protesten op Maidanplein, vanwege Rusland vriendelijk handelen door president Zelensky'

'Snowden vindt het ongelofelijk dat de media VS politici niet aanspreken op totaal verschillende reacties n.a.v. 'klokkenluiden''

'Joe Biden heeft al lang toegegeven dat hij Oekraïne onder druk zette een openbaar aanklager te ontslaan die zijn zoon vervolgde'

'Koning Willem Alexander vraagt Rusland om medewerking bij onderzoek naar rampvlucht MH17' (en zie de links in dat bericht naar meer informatie over rampvlucht MH17)

'MH17: JIT haalt zelfs de afscheiding van Oost-Oekraïne aan in de zoveelste mislukte poging de schuld in de schoenen van Rusland te schuiven'

'Oekraïne kondigt staat van beleg af vanwege 'Russische agressie' in de Zee van Azov'

'VS torpedojager arriveert in Zwarte Zee terwijl de boel daar op scherp staat........'

''Porosjenko (Oekraïne) roept de NAVO op tot oorlog tegen Rusland'

'Election ploy? Poroshenko declares martial law in Ukraine after Kerch standoff'

'VS senator Rand Paul stelt n.a.v. NAVO-top dat men de zaak moet bekijken vanuit het Russische perspectief'

'Putin en Trump halen spanning uit de lucht >> de westerse wereld schreeuwt moord en brand......'

'Afspraken met de VS maken? Voor je het weet heb je te maken met een 'verspreking' van de president..... ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!'

'Oekraïne, Georgië en Moldavië hebben oud bondgenootschap doen herleven, in voorbereiding op NAVO lidmaatschap en verdere actie tegen Rusland........'

'De Krim, Georgië en Syrië >> de anti-Russische propaganda.....'

'Oekraïne en NAVO bezig met uitlokking WOIII.........

'VS levert neonazi-leger Oekraïne voor 250 miljoen dollar aan wapens'